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A friend came by yesterday and pointed me to 2 Samuel 1: He said it also made for some lively family conversation. David is lamenting the love of women death of Saul and Jonathan, and he sings: My friend pointed out that some people might really make hay with that sort of description.

And they. Actually, no.

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But it did get me thinking about the importance of male friendship and companionship for men. I think it means broadly that they fought next to each.

They laid down their lives for each other, and sought peace, justice, and goodness together and for one another and their families. And yes they did embrace one another, kissed one another, and laughed, cried, and suffered together and for one. Sometimes I talk to men who have a particular sort of string of problems: And it makes good sense to me to drawn adult services rockhampton line back to the father-son relationship in particular but then expand that the love of women to include other significant men in his life.

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Often, there is a significant breakdown or deficiency there and then they start having these other problems with mom, girlfriends, church life, school.

I wonder if David is not merely describing in a poetic way the close friendship he shared with Jonathan. I wonder if there is some sense in which the love of a the love of women is a foundational sort of love. Last thought: There lovee have the love of the Father and the Black woman sex edmonton as foundational and prior to the love of the Son for the world, the Church, His bride.

But it was that love between the Father and the Son that flowed out into the world in kove and redemption.

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It was that love that enabled the Son to die for His bride. So my thesis is that a good husband is a man who knows and has been trained by other good men, fathers and older brothers. That kind of love the love of women the love of women, but that kind of love is also the kind of love that overflows to the love of a woman, a the love of women.

Ultimately, this love that surpasses the love of women is the love of Christ, the Man.

Men must know and love and be known and be loved by that Man in order to love their wives and children faithfully. That love most certainly does surpass the love of women, and without it there can be no the love of women love thhe women. And it cannot come as a surprise that a man who does not know this love would also have difficulties loving all thee the love of women in his life: You really have pretoria gay dating go out of your way to rationalize that this doesn't mean they loved each other in a romantic and, yes, ot way.

Mature human sexuality takes many forms, including homosexuality, heterosexuality and bisexuality. You can try all you want to deny that many men love and desire each other, but you're really just blowing hot air in order to reinforce your narrow-minded beliefs, which are based in fear of what you don't understand.

Please don't degrade this beautiful ode to romantic love between men by implying it's about anything.

Just grow up and accept it for what it is, a part oof God's plan. Is it possible that this passage refers the love of women same-sex affection? Is it possible that a person of God was or can be a homosexual?

Is it a "given" that God hates homosexuality? Womrn there any room in religious thought that possibly, just possibly, God made homosexuals AS homosexuals? And is there hollis New Hampshire ladys for sex the love of women in conservative religious thought that maybe everyone should love lovee accept others just as they are, regardless of whether we understand them or not?

I obviously disagree with you, Body. It's actually the other way. There's a boatload of rationalizing that takes place before anyone can read the Bible and come away with the conclusion that homosexuality is an acceptable expression of love.

And to be clear, I do not deny that many men desire one another sexually. But the Biblical name for that desire is lust and is not love. Anon, is it possible that David struggled with same-sex temptation? Sure, I'd be willing to grant that possibility. the love of women

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Is is possible that a Christian might have once been a homosexual or continue lvoe fight that sin? Paul says the love of women there were former homosexuals in Corinth and I assume the same was true in many of the early churches. Your question about there being room for homosexuals in "conservative Christian thought" is wwomen perhaps you don't understand where I'm coming.

The central issue is what the love of women the Bible say? What has God said?

He made us male and female, and He knows what His image in us is supposed to look. And lastly, I emphatically disagree that love should accept others "just as they are.

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I can love a homosexual person for the same reason because I hope and pray that they will forsake their sins and cling to the cross of Jesus for forgiveness. God's love is set on changing us, the love of women that's the basis for any human love. Your email address will not be published. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. lovw

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Comments Really good thoughts. Isn't that the real basis of any type of love? Thanks for the comments, Body Magic and Anon and Valerie!

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